Challenging "Carmen" and her anti-Human Ravings
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The following article is designed to expose Carmen, webmaster of The Refiner's Fire. Carmen is an angry woman who believes she represents and speaks for God, the Almighty Lord of the universe, the loving Jesus.  She arrogantly and with great conceit considers herself to be the "Refiner's Fire" whose mission in life is to spew hatred and venom at as many human beings as is possible. We are saddened that anyone would wish to take into their sweet souls such viciousness and hatred.


The first thing one notices on Carmen's website is that it drips with unchained hatred towards human beings. This "Christian" who knocks herself out to "toot her own horn" and make sure that the world knows what intolerance she has, making, among other things, vicious and hateful remarks about other people.

While there is no doubt that Carmen has knowledge of the Bible, she arrogantly and vituperatively uses it to bludgeon other people into her beliefs, as evidenced in the myriad articles on her website.

Following are Carmen's ravings against humanity:

The Refiner's Fire Comment: 1 Corinthians 2:14 - But a natural man does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually appraised.

The Refiner's Fire Comment: When Jesus returns...knees will bow - and He won't be the least bit interested in...education or accomplishments - OR...beauty. His only interest will be the state of [one's] heart....

The Refiner's Fire Comment: Won't [other human beings] be surprised when He returns on the clouds to zap His enemies at Armageddon and send Satan and his followers into the abyss! I would LOVE to be a little fly on the wall on Judgment Day! Matthew 7:13 - 14: 13 "Enter through the narrow gate; for the gate is wide and the way is broad that leads to destruction, and there are many who enter through it. 14 "For the gate is small and the way is narrow that leads to life, and there are few who find it.

The Refiner's Fire Comment: Man, in his natural state IS sadistic; we inherited the legacy from Adam and Eve - that is why Yeshua came! Without Him, we would all be doomed to hell.

The Refiner's Fire Comment: God, who loved the world so much that He gave His only begotten Son (John 3:16) gave us the opportunity to have eternal life - and most people refuse to acknowledge that fact. As the Bible says: ...The man who walks in the dark does not know where he is going (John 12:35).

The Refiner's Fire CommentJust for kicks, let me remind you how God used Hitler to make one of his major end time prophecies come true (a prophecy that HAD to be fulfilled before the "end times" could be ushered in): In Genesis 12:3, 5:18, Deuteronomy 30:3, and Ezekiel 36:8-10 God promised the Jews that they would one day become a nation again. This happened in 1948, when the world briefly felt sorry for the Jews following the Holocaust and returned Israel to them. Since then, many countries have tried to take Israel away from the Jews (remember 1967?), and guess what - it ain't gonna happen because God won't let it! That just isn't in His plan. He didn't CREATE Hitler to kill the Jews or fulfill prophecy. He used Hitler's choices for His glory. While it is unfortunate that people had to die, GOD didn't kill them; Hitler did. Could God have stopped the carnage? Certainly. After all, He created us and the entire universe. Why didn't He? Because He has given us all CHOICES. So, what exactly, is so disgusting about God using Hitler to bring about one of His end time prophecies? He KNEW Hitler was going to try to exterminate the Jews even at the beginning of time, just as he knows everything else. That was only ONE prophecy of HUNDREDS that have come true! That is proof of God's existence, whether you believe, or not. Guess what! God is also using the spirit of Islam to bring in His end time scenario! Know how I know? Because the Bible tells us that many believers will be BEHEADED for their beliefs - and who are the ONLY people in the universe who still behead? The Muslims! And they've already started beheading the "infidels" .... [This hateful page is cached here.]

Ephesians 6: 10 Finally, be strong in the Lord and in his mighty power. 11 Put on the full armor of God so that you can take your stand against the devil's schemes. 12 For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms. 13 Therefore put on the full armor of God, so that when the day of evil comes, you may be able to stand your ground, and after you have done everything, to stand. 14 Stand firm then, with the belt of truth buckled around your waist, with the breastplate of righteousness in place, 15 and with your feet fitted with the readiness that comes from the gospel of peace. 16 In addition to all this, take up the shield of faith, with which you can extinguish all the flaming arrows of the evil one. 17 Take the helmet of salvation and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God. 18 And pray in the Spirit on all occasions with all kinds of prayers and requests. With this in mind, be alert and always keep on praying for all the saints.

It won't be easy, and we will constantly have to remind ourselves that we are following in the footsteps of our Savior who was crucified for the Truth:

Mat 5:10-12: 10 "How blessed are those who are persecuted because they pursue righteousness! for the Kingdom of Heaven is theirs. 11 How blessed you are when people insult you and persecute you and tell all kinds of vicious lies about you because you follow me! 12 Rejoice, be glad, because your reward in heaven is great - they persecuted the prophets before you in the same way.

The bottom line is - and we have to remember: Yeshua commanded us to spread the Gospel; but He also told us not to waste our time on hard-nosed unbelievers:

2 Timothy 2:14 - Keep reminding people of this, and charge them solemnly before the Lord not to engage in word-battles. They accomplish nothing useful and are a catastrophe for the hearers.

Matthew 7:6 - "Do not give what is holy to dogs, and do not throw your pearls before swine, or they will trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you to pieces.


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To the self-righteous egotists who believe they are better than everyone else, the rest of us are all swine. (These self-righteous and megalomaniacal egotists who believe they speak for God also tend to criticize everyone else for supposed vanity.)

Yes, indeed, Carmen certainly is full off God's love! Her love and appreciation for humanity simply exude from her. Her well wishes and benevolence shine through like jewels!

Carmen is a perfect example of how bitter and hateful Christianity makes people towards other of God's creatures, especially towards living, breathing and feeling human beings. In order to protect God, who, being omnipotent and omnipresent, doesn't need their protection, embittered and human-hating individuals like Carmen must rage endlessly at others.

Carmen is a very sick individual who will even abuse children in order to further her message of human hatred.


To Carmen and all the other deranged fanatics who have websites designed to attack human beings, I have this to say:

  • If you cause pain to living, breathing human beings over God, you are hurting yourself as well.

  • Your use of God and the Bible to intimidate others and cause them pain will come back to bite you - on Judgment Day.

I sincerely pray you will repent and ask Jesus to reveal the LOVE to you - before it's too late...


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